Grief Sucks - Life After Loss
Grief sucks! Let's talk about all the things people don't talk about when losing someone. Grief doesn't only come in death. You can grieve a friendship that you no longer have. Or a relationship that no longer exists. We often do not hear people talk about the unfiltered, raw emotions and thoughts that come with grief.
Did you hear a song today and bust out in tears? Did you see a picture and get pissed off? Did you cry for two seconds today and then you were okay? Have you lost your shit in the grocery store because suddenly grief took over? Are you scared that every little thing would kill you after the sudden loss of someone close to you? Do you feel like the people who was once close to you are no longer there?
LET'S TALK ABOUT ALL OF THIS!!! It's normal. Someone recently told me, grief is healing. I never thought about it this way. It makes sense, so let's heal together through stories, tears, laughter and the raw truth.
I am Linda Carter. I am a widow without a filter. 2021 brought a ton of loss and heartache to my family. We lost my husband and mother-in-law in the same day. That day happened to be my 40th birthday. The loss didn't stop there, we had more deaths, friendships changed, relationships changed, some people disappeared, and some showed up. It was crazy. My hope is that this podcast will help people tell their stories and help others heal or just simply know that you are not crazy. This is real shit and yes, it is happening to you. However, you will get through it.
Grief Sucks - Life After Loss
Choosing Growth: Navigating Divorce and Embracing New Beginnings
What if the end of a relationship is not failure, but a courageous choice for growth? Join us on "Grief Sucks Life After Loss" as we sit down with Lindsay, who candidly shares her experience of concluding a 12-year marriage, not due to conflict, but because she and her ex-husband were evolving in different directions. Lindsay opens up about the challenging decision to prioritize modeling a healthy relationship for their children, confronting the grief of losing her identity as a stay-at-home mom, and embarking on the path of co-parenting and self-discovery.
Lindsay's journey didn't stop at separation; it was just the beginning of an emotional renaissance. She embarked on a six-month transformative trip to Bali, focusing on self-care and emotional healing, which in turn had a profound impact on her relationship with her children. Listen as she reveals how navigating single parenting without support, and undergoing an intensive healing course, allowed her to express raw emotions and foster open conversations about self-worth, particularly influencing her daughter's ability to express her feelings.
The theme of intuition and change runs deep in this episode. Lindsay talks about how life's subtle signs can lead to significant personal growth and healing. From the adventure of relocating to Bali to maintaining strong connections despite the distance, Lindsay shares how trusting her inner voice led her to create a dream life. This episode captures her journey of embracing the unknown, the transformative energy of Bali, and the endless allure of travel, leaving listeners inspired to pursue their own adventures.
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Welcome to Grief Sucks Life After Loss, where we talk all things grief. Thanks for being with us today and we hope you enjoy this episode. Welcome, lindsay. Thanks for being here with us today. How are you?
Speaker 2:Great, how are you? Thanks so much for having me, linda. Good, so you have some stories to tell? I have some stories and, yeah, we want it. Just before we hit record, we talked about marriage, walking away from a marriage, and this is something that I know a lot of people. I feel like I'm meeting more and more people who are leaving their marriages and not out of something like massively bad happening, but just feeling like that chapter has ended and they need to walk into something else. And that was very much the case for me and my ex-husband and we had been married 12 years together, 14 years, two kids and things were not working. Things were not terrible. He's a very good man. We parented well together. We got along well together. He was one of my best friends. The longer we were together, the more we both felt suffocated by each other.
Speaker 2:It was like we were growing together for the first half of our marriage and then something shifted and we started growing in two different directions. He wanted different things. I wanted, I wanted my life to go a certain way. I didn't fully have that nailed down, but it just felt like we were stuck. We were stuck in a cycle where, you know it was, you know, my reaction to when I'm overwhelmed is to control and get more controlling. And, you know, pick on him and criticize him. His reaction was to just duck out and check out. And so I think even before our marriage officially ended, he had checked out and in some ways I had checked out. We had gone to counseling for years.
Speaker 2:I feel like we really did give our best effort, both of us, but we were just stuck in this cycle that we couldn't break and it was extremely painful, recognizing the cycle that you're in and both wanting to break it and both wanting things to work out Like divorce was never on our radar, but it was. You know, we just we couldn't figure it out and there came a point where we just had to surrender to that and I'll say walk in the failure of our marriage because, no matter how hard we seem to try, it just wasn't working. And then all of the criticisms come up right, Like you know, in terms of being a failure, not having a successful marriage, but also like what are you doing to the kids? Like we're parting ways, Like you know, I mean it was an amicable mutual breakup, but like I'm walking away from a good man, like there is nothing, like there's no abuse, there's no like nothing earth-shattering here. But it was just like we couldn't, we couldn't figure it out. And then, yeah, with the kids, you know we actually made a point, a decision at one point, like we're gonna stay together, because you know we have two young kids and for financial reasons like I was a stay at home mom, for financial reasons like it just made sense to stay together.
Speaker 2:But one of the I'll say the, the nail in the coffin question for us really became or it was would we want this marriage? Us really became or it was. Would we want this marriage, Would we want this relationship for either of our kids? And we both sat there and we said no, like as much as we were trying to model and do good by our kids, like we were not modeling what a good relationship was and what we wanted for our kids. And then it became about how can we create a relationship between us that is different than what we had planned, how can we create a relationship that we would be proud for our kids to model? And so we set down that path.
Speaker 2:We stayed under the same roof for another six months and then I moved out. At the same time, I started traveling and I went on a five month trip, kids, and it was just. You know, we talk about grief. It's like grieving the loss of a marriage, but it's grieving the loss of my identity as a stay at home mom and of um. You know all the shifts that take place when we start to pull out of our roles that we've been in for so long. So maybe I'll stop there. Yeah, we'll stop there for a moment, Okay.
Speaker 1:And I mean I give it to you guys for coming together and making those decisions, because I think a lot of people we live in a different world today and you know it's not like back in the day when our parents or grandparents or they, they stuffed it out whether the relationship was good or bad. They just stuck with it. And a lot of people do it for the kids or think they're doing it for the kids, but it's not necessarily a good situation for the kids, especially if they're seeing their parents not happy. The kids, especially if they're seeing their parents not happy. Then, like you said, like what would you want your kids to do with the situation? Or how would you want their marriage or relationship to be? And you know they they learn by seeing how we react to things and how we do things. And I think that's very important to think about that, that aspect of it, instead of just saying you know we're saying for the kids because it's better for them, because nine times out of 10, it's not.
Speaker 2:No, and it was. It was for the kids. There was walking away for me from like. There was the security of a house, the security of a husband to take care of me, um, and then parenting separately, because at that point I was a stay at home mom, he was working so much that he had kind of checked out of parenting, so then it was even just walking through, like passing over control to him.
Speaker 2:Because the way we did our co parenting situation for those first five months, as you know, I was traveling and trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life. I had the kids by myself for the first two months. We went to Costa Rica to see if that would be a good place for me to live. I knew I didn't want to live in Canada anymore. Um, and then we actually spent a month together in Mexico, all four of us, uh, for Christmas, and then he took the kids back to Canada and I went off to Bali for two months and he I was also homeschooling the kids up until that point, and so he, like the kids, had to go back into the public school system and I had to surrender full control of parenting to their dad, to surrender full control of parenting to their dad, while I was literally on the other side of the world for two months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and how did? That's scary in itself. That's just a whole because you're used to being the one to care for your kids, you know based pretty much a hundred percent on the on the hands-on aspect. So just letting that change alone I'm sure brought a lot of fear and anxiety and just a lot of emotions.
Speaker 2:It was a lot of emotions. It was a lot of self-criticism too, like what kind of mother leaves her kids? What kind of mother, like, leaves her kids to essentially go on vacation, like that's how it looked from the outside, and I really, you know, I went to Bali. It was just based on intuition. It was like what my intuition was telling me was go to Bali, meet people to help you figure out your life. I'm like I don't even know where to start with that. I don't know why I have to go so far away.
Speaker 2:And I fought it and fought it and fought it. And then I was just like, okay, I'm buying the plane ticket and booking my first four nights, and I just really just felt into each day. But at the same time I was like what are my kids going to be like without me? We have literally spent like every waking hour together for years. And then what would he be like as a parent without me? And then, on top of that, those kids are going back into the public school system. They had been in it previously and it was not a good situation for them.
Speaker 2:So there was a lot of self-judgment. There was a lot of guilt. I didn't quite recognize it as guilt at that point, just for essentially walking away from kids. I was used to having them around, I was used to being in control of their education and what they ate and who their friends were they were six and eight at the time Just to surrender that completely and trust that they would be okay through all of it and I was not screwing them up by doing this and somehow it was trusting and having faith that whatever journey I was on was also going to benefit them somehow, even though I couldn't see it in the moment.
Speaker 1:I think, as parents, we always worry about our decisions, um, screwing our kids up. And mine when, after my husband died, I'm like, is any decision that I'm making screwing up my kids? Or am I teaching them how to handle this the wrong way? Or, you know, I think that's always in the back of our mind is, whatever we're doing, is that going to affect them long term or make them reason us or anything you know? To that nature, it's a scary, scary situation.
Speaker 1:But also, I think when we're going through things, you know when you're trying to find yourself, because once you walk away from a situation like that, now you have to figure out how you're going to make money and you have to figure out where you're going to live. And you got to figure out how you're going to make money and you have to figure out where you're going to live, and you got to figure out how you're going to do X, y, z alone, on top of figuring out who you are, because you're a different person without that person. You're a different person. Being a co-parent and in all the different situations, it just makes you a different person in whole. And I think sometimes we go on this journey to figure out who we are and to heal ourselves to be able to get through that, to find out who we truly are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I never really fully understood the importance of taking the time to heal. And you know we always hear about like self-care, take care of yourself, put your oxygen mask on first. But it's only really been in the last couple of years where I've fully understood that and as I've taken these months without my kids I did two months initially and then later that year I did another two months in preparation for a six-month trip to Bali with my kids. But taking that time laying the foundation to me, it's, I see how much happier I am as a person, I see how much better of a mom I am, I see how much more patience I have for my kids.
Speaker 2:When I do take time to like slow down, it's not even necessarily pampering myself, but just slow down and have the space to reflect and cry and process stuff. And I have a very good relationship because of because of that with my kids. And it's not that I had a bad relationship before, but I see the um, the sort of ripple effect even like doing Bali for six months with my kids, like single parenting in a country, um, no support, completely different culture, um, I, there was nowhere for me to get away, there wasn't grandparents to lean on. I wasn't necessarily comfortable hiring a nanny. I did a little bit, but not for like, not for like nighttime stuff or anything like that what I?
Speaker 2:so my kids saw me and at the same I was going through a very intensive 12 week healing course, which was just like the wildest journey I've ever been on, and a lot of stuff was coming to the surface A lot of my fears, a lot of my feelings of self-worth, like everything was just being thrown at me in those first three months that we were in Bali and I could not escape my kids and they saw me in like puddles on the floor. They saw me angry and going through. You know, when my anger finally started releasing, and even though I I did my best not to take it out on them, I remember one time just sitting there and just screaming and I wasn't even screaming at them, I just sort of like like really, really loud, scared the crap out of both of them. Both of them started crying and they just got to see me in like some of my worst moments and also because of the healing stuff I had already done, because of the course I was going through, I could also sit there and help them really understand. Like none of this was to do with them. Even when I was taking it out on them, I was still able.
Speaker 2:I remember I forget what they did to my room the one time I think they they hung a bunch of stuff up or like I don't remember if they pulled out my clothes or if it was just paper, like there was something there where they like there was just a mess in my bedroom and I walked in and I just started crying and they were just like and I remember just sitting there or standing there, crying and feeling upset and feeling agitated and just being like this actually has nothing to do with you guys.
Speaker 2:This is triggering something that happened like a decade ago and I could see that relationship and I'm like you know, what you guys just did is triggering this, but it has nothing to do with me. You guys just did is triggering this, but it has nothing to do with me. And I was able to sit in this space of you know, being completely in that overwhelm emotional state and also the observer state, where I'm just like, okay, I see what's happening, I see my, my reaction, and I'm like walking through, I'm like I need to just go cry in the other room and.
Speaker 2:I will be back and and. So they got to witness all of that. And for my daughter in particular, she's always been one to hold in her emotions just to try to tough it out. There's so many like she's, so similar to how I was as a little girl of just you know, wanting to put on the happy face or feeling the need to put on the happy face. I don't know if it's a conditioned state or a natural state. But and then understanding you know I was a parenting coach for a number of years and understanding like emotions need to be felt, they need to be expressed, and if they're bottled up, then it comes out as rage, it comes out as anger, it comes out as resentment. It comes out in these like these other ways and she's always, she's always been one to just like smile, smile, smile and then just like explode for a few weeks, where it's like I mean, when she was younger she's 10 now, but she's more in this last year I'm seeing her crying more and I'm just like this is so good, this is so good that you're letting it out and not getting angry about the tears coming out or not like fighting super hard.
Speaker 2:So I think when we are able to process emotions in front of our kids without, I mean, some days I'm sure they thought it was about them and some days I probably did blame them. But you know, when we're when they're able to see all of the messy sides of being what it is to be human right All of these things are part of it and we're modeling for them how to process emotions. Whether we like it or not, we're leading by example and it's been really. You know it's been very messy, but it's been really beautiful to, especially with my daughter, witness her being more and more okay with just allowing the tears to come, and I really do think that's because I've been better at that. Like that's something that I really resisted for the first few decades of my life.
Speaker 1:I think it's important for our kids to see us process the emotions and go through the things and how we deal with those things, because at the end of the day, we're teaching them that we are real. You know, it does get messy and it's okay. For me, a big thing was to teach my kids it's okay to be down, but we can't stay there. We have to get back up. So it's okay to have our bad days. It's okay to have those days where you know you just don't feel like doing anything, but you can't stay there. You got to get back up at some point and I think it's important to teach our kids those things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and just the more we can recognize even in ourselves that it's just a wave of emotions that's passing over us and it will subside, whether it's, you know, within an hour. Subside, whether it's, you know, within an hour, a day, a few weeks, I don't know, but there's always. There's always another like there's always an end or like a break in the emotions and we just have to ride the wave. It doesn't, it does, it will not consume us forever If we, unless we are really determined to let it- Absolutely so you went to Bali and did you find the people to help you?
Speaker 1:And how did you find those people? I'm so curious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is where, like, the faith and the trust really comes in, because, yeah, I went to Bali. I didn't know anyone there until maybe three weeks before I left for that trip, when I was randomly connected with somebody there. Honestly, it's like the funniest thing. It was just like a Facebook message from someone I've never met in person hey, merry Christmas, happy New Year, what's new in your life? And just sharing an update. Hey, I'm going to Bali. This is what like just went through a divorce, blah, blah, blah. And she's like what's new in your life? And just sharing an update. Hey, I'm going to Bali. Um, this is what like just went through a divorce, blah, blah, blah. And she's like there's someone I follow in line, um, in ball, and she just went. She's just going through a separation too. Like, do you want me to connect you with her? And I was like sure, and she's she that that person is now one of my best friends. So I met her, like I actually met up. We exchanged a few messages before I went and, and when I got there, within the first two days, I met her in person and then she just started introducing me to people and then, and then it just sort of like, went from there and, like I said, like I had the first four days booked, nothing else planned, and Bali is a very magical spiritual place where your intuition, like you, can just tap into it. It's so strong, there's something about the energy of that island that's pretty incredible and I just you know, after those first four days I was like I'm going to go stay in a hostel and I was like I'm 40 years old, like I don't have any desire to stay in a hostel, like what is happening. So I booked a few nights in there. It was a women's only hostel and I met two ladies in that hostel and I met two ladies in that hostel and they became my travel buddies over the following two months and you know we would go our separate ways and we would reconnect, and so that was really cool.
Speaker 2:And then I just I met, I was introduced to a whole expat community there. So I got to pick their brains about what it was like to live in Bali and to move out of Canada, the US, australia, wherever they were all from, and they had been there for an extended period of time, so they were well established in that area, so they gave me all sorts of pointers introduced me to other people One of them I ended up doing some like a business with, and someone else who I was introduced to for healing purposes, like it was he does channeling and like more spiritual coaching, and he's actually the one that I ended up doing that 12 week intensive program with. I started just going to his weekly sessions. He had group sessions with like $20 or less than $20 and go sit, ask questions, have some guidance and there was something really really magical about that presence as well and very healing, like you could just sit in that energy and no matter what questions were asked, it was just like you were surrounded by love and just like this gentle guidance. And I ended up helping him put a book together. So I did some work with him. So I picked up some, you know, I'll say jobs along the way.
Speaker 2:But also, just you know, when I left Bali, the only clarity I had was that I was not going to have a home. So I left Bali in mid-March. The clarity I had was I'm not going to have a home until at least September. I didn't have any further clarity on that and I didn't have any, I'll say sort of career path or sustainable work, like I had very project-based work, so I I was walking into more unknown, so I came back and I stayed with my parents.
Speaker 2:But what that those travels did was really um, uh, they allowed me to trust my intuition. Like I went there based on intuition. I was even Costa Rica was intuition, there was things, there was I was being shown evidence, basically to trust my intuition and that I wasn't alone, that I was being guided. I was being guided and I just had to walk forward one step at a time without having the whole plan figured out, which was so uncomfortable for me, because I've always been a planner, I've always had the longer term vision, I've always needed to have it all mapped out, and now it's still uncomfortable. It's still uncomfortable. Living in the present is very uncomfortable. But I do have this faith that things are working out for me and that I am being taken care of. And even though you know, I often say I feel like I have a really strong compass, I just have no idea where I'm going strong compass.
Speaker 1:I just have no idea where I'm going. I feel that I, I, I want to be on the go. I don't have. You know, I feel like I'm still trying to figure out life at 42.
Speaker 2:I guess I'm like I have to tell people. I'm like I'm still trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up. I think we all are right. I'm the same age as you And'm just like, what am I doing? Like yeah, I mean, I'm sure I was gonna say I'm sure people are looking at this like a midlife crisis, but I'm like I feel like my life is more put together now than when I had all of the boxes checked of, like the marriage, the successful career, all of the things, the house.
Speaker 1:But yeah, just piecing it together and it's a little bit more freeing to be able to be on your own terms and piece it together, because you know I feel like you don't feel as bogged down as you did with that constant schedule and you know the corporate jobs and things like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get to. I get to choose what I do. There's a level of discomfort that comes with that too, absolutely. Even just talking to my ex-husband a few months ago and he was it was before the summer and I'm like I want to take my kids here this summer and he's like I want to take them to Mexico at Christmas and then I'm like I'd love to go back to Bali for six months and it was just like this five minute conversation of like all these things and I'm like what is happening. But even like the fact that he's been so open for me, like taking the kids and traveling and exposing them to different cultures and different ways of doing life, it's been unnerving, like sometimes I'm just like someone put some boundaries on me because it's so.
Speaker 2:I know I didn't say that out loud, just like, cancel that. But it's so open-ended and it's freeing. But it's also like, oh my goodness, I could literally do anything and go anywhere.
Speaker 1:Like, oh my, oh my goodness, and it sucks that sometimes it takes events or, you know, losses to get to that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I do. I, um, there's a story, um that I love, that basically like illustrates that point, like sometimes we just need it to, we need the big thing to happen to shake us. And the story is just like two old men sitting on a porch and there's a dog whimpering. And the one man turns to the other and is like why is your dog whimpering? He's lying on a nail. Well, why doesn't he move? It doesn't hurt that much, doesn't hurt that much.
Speaker 2:And like we, often, you know the little things in our life that are just like annoying, we can put up with them, we can brush them off, we can ignore them.
Speaker 2:There it's not that high and urgent. And then, and then, when it is high, like we need the, sometimes we need that, you know that diagnosis, that major life event, that big thing to just shake us awake, to, to rattle us out of that comfort zone, when you know maybe we had been getting cues all along that this was the path we should take and we've just been ignoring it, or or maybe it's just, you know, from a faith perspective, I really feel like we're not, like everything we're handed is for the purpose of our healing and our growth and it sucks going through some of those experiences, but they're really. They're serving us from a soul on a soul level, not necessarily always at a human level in the moment, but there's a bigger purpose and there's nothing put in front of you that you can't handle, that you're not ready to deal with, even when it's excruciating, like it is really there to grow you and expand you.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. It's all very scary to make the decisions to jump in, to do it, but I think at the end it really does pay off if you pay attention and take the leap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never felt more myself, I've never loved life more and I've never felt deeply, as deeply happy as I do now. And even like that happiness from like I am worth, like from a self-worth perspective, like I am actually worthy of living a really incredible life. And life gets to be fun when we can move through our stuff, we can move through our shadows and our grief and our experiences and really just like shed the layers and the beliefs that have been holding us back for so long.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes. So are you in Bali now, or Canada?
Speaker 2:I am in Canada for now and hoping to go back to Bali in January for six months with my kids again.
Speaker 1:And how does the kids feel now about everything that's happened?
Speaker 2:Like in terms of the marriage, in terms of Bali, in terms of what do you? Which?
Speaker 1:parts I would say in general, like how did they handle all of that?
Speaker 2:I mean way better than I thought, truthfully, way better than I thought, um, they have been incredible travelers for the adventure. I can see, like, when we first got to Bali with them six months, like there, I mean, the biggest thing with with that arrangement was, like they're not going to see their dad. That's, that's massive. And he did come to visit partway through. That's the biggest thing that we had to contend with. And same with, like when I was traveling without them, it's, you know, they're not seeing me every day and we really, we really make a point to video chat every day. So when, when we were in Bali at breakfast, they were chatting with their dad before school and really consciously trying to like maintaining that connection because, like, I have zero desire to take my kids away from their dad, right, um, but that's been the biggest, the biggest one. But in terms of like, adapting to the, the, you know, the ending of our marriage and me moving, think it's been way better than we expected. I think because of the way we did it, where we just jumped into traveling and it was an adventure and then I just never went back. There was definitely times where, like, and we told them and we very clearly laid out, like what would be happening over the next few months, and even now we're always just discussing, like discussing. Like you know, this is the plan for the next few months because we don't have a permanent. I mean, it's me, I don't have a permanent, it's not their dad, I don't have a permanent home, I don't have a permanent solution here. Um, so it's just keeping them up to date in terms of what to expect and then, um, in terms of adapting to, like, the culture and the new, their new, like bali, the bali stuff, um, that went smoother than expected and it was funny because at the beginning of that trip with them, um, it was, within a few weeks, very apparent why I had spent two months there in the fall without them, just sort of laying the groundwork. And I didn't.
Speaker 2:That was a trip I fought. I didn't want to leave my kids again, um, I didn't want to go and again the intuition was telling me, like go, figure out where you're going to live, figure out like schools, learn how to drive a motorbike, and I was like I can do all of that with the kids in tow. But when I got there with the kids in tow and I had all that set up like the ease of the transition, like we didn't have to jump from hotel to hotel, we didn't have to go, like we just it made it easier. And again, that was just more evidence that like when I trust my intuition, even with it kind of defies logic, and I'm having like a temper tantrum, I'm like I don't want to go, I don't want to do that thing, but it's just that sort of thing just like deepens my faith and seeing how well my kids adjusted because I did those things. Yeah, I think it's just like, over and over, just lessons to trust yourself.
Speaker 1:And you have a podcast. You want to tell us about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my podcast is called Breaking Free with Lindsay and it's all about shedding fears, limiting beliefs, thought patterns and really trusting your intuition to create your dream life, so it's basically like all the stuff we just talked about.
Speaker 1:Well, it sounds like, even though you went through a lot of rough things, that now it's all paid off and you're living your truly, your best life.
Speaker 2:Living and still figuring things out along the way.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think that's just how life is going to be. I don't think it's a midlife crisis. I think that's just where we're at in life and you know, as long as you're, you're okay, I'm okay with it. I'm okay with figuring out every day. Yeah, it's uncomfortable. We don't have to live those traditional lives anymore. It's okay to be wanderers and you know it's fine.
Speaker 2:It is fine and that's like one of the biggest, like you know, things that scare people is just not having that plan, not having that guarantee. But it really is an exercise of faith and that's not necessarily a religion, but it's just like this deep faith in yourself and knowing that, whatever happens, you can figure it out from there, Like you are absolutely capable of figuring it out and you're absolutely capable and worthy of living life in your most authentic and um like soul fulfilled way.
Speaker 1:Yes, and is there? Is there anything else you'd like to share with us today?
Speaker 2:And is there anything else you'd like to share with us today? No, I feel like I got it all out. Thank, you.
Speaker 1:It was great. I'm kind of jealous. Bali is definitely up on my list. Yeah, come visit. I'll let you know when I make that trip. Well, thank you for being with us today and sharing your story, and I'll reach out when it's my turn to go to.
Speaker 2:Bali. Thank you so much for having me. I've really enjoyed this. Thank you.
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